The topic of this string is pretty straightforward, isn't it? "Post Information and Inquiries About Interviews and Status of Searches Here." The whole prestige debate is tiresome...
Sociology is a diverse--some would say fractured--field, with specialists here and there who barely understand each others' jargon. Yet there is one thing we can all rely on -- the fact that if we disagree, I will call your argument "unsociological." Bladow!
I went for first two years to a low-ranked public school and then transferred to a public R1 for junior and senior years.
My advisor had the chair of Harvard's dept. call me on the phone when I started thinking about applying to grad schools. Scared the shit out of me...impostor syndrome?
I am working class and believe me, at the low-ranked public state school there is no way in hell I would have had access to valued such social capital.
I love my wife and I stayed at the state school for graduate study where she was. Have a beautiful daughter now and if I went to Harvard or some other elite school far away, I wouldn't probably have her.
With regard to 2:26's comment yesterday: just because someone isn't at a top-5 program doesn't mean they couldn't get into a top-5 program and I think we should stop assuming that. I turned down a Top-2 program in favor of a lower-ranked program for a number of reasons. Sometimes being the big fish in the small pond isn't a bad thing either.
Any additional information on the status of the 2 Chicago offers? They were made over a month ago. Any hope that they will be flying out new candidates...I know that rejection letters were sent out awhile ago but I have yet to receive one. Is mine just lost in the mail? I know, I probably should not read too much into it...
What happened to Chicago? The wiki has said for a while that offers were made, but now there's no listing of Chicago at all. Did someone remove them from the wiki for a valid reason or was it tampering?
Updates: Maryland made a senior offer. Don't know if they will make a junior one.
NYU: made three junior offers. Called candidates for Associate and joint searches.
Chicago: One of the offers is for the same person who was offers from at least 4 others top 20 places. I'll guess you'll have to wait. Though there is a strong chance the job offer will go to the 2nd on the list.
I turned down the #1 program in Soc. for one ranked in the 30s, and for good reason. Never regretted it. In general, it's the connections and reputation of your chair that matter most, not the ranking of the dept.
Meanwhile, ON topic: anyone hear anything from/about U of Southern Mississippi?
i propose that on next year's blog we have a string called "departmental stratification" for all manner of discussions about prestige, class, status, ranking fetishism, quality of life, etc... the discussions are great, but they also clog up the other practical aims of the blog strings...
You know, I was just reading through the blog and I have a comment to the person with info on Maryland. Considering what is at stake, you come off as pretty heartless. Some or all of the people who interviewed for that job will know read/hear that the school was "not that impressed" with them.
I just noticed that Western Carolina had the short list. Any detailed information? Did they conduct the phone interview? Anyone heard from Saint Anslem? Thanks
I am a member of the maryland hiring committee and I do want to correct the information. In fact we made an offer to a junior person (and it was accepted). We also have not foreclosed making another offer to a junior candidate. The search remains open. We were highly impressed by each person who came to give a talk junior and senior alike.
Two quick questions. First, what's the word on the Vermont searches? There was lots of discussion but nothing definitive posted on the wiki. Second, anybody know anything about the Canadian jobs that have posted this year? I've only seen UVic listed. Thanks!
That's sad, that Haverford's moving so late. I suppose with a Dec 17 deadline it's unlikely they'd move earlier, but I'd been kind of hoping they'd start calling people before the holidays.
while i'm sure most people have already guessed this, i figured i'd post that the berkeley job was offered and accepted. i heard this last week from the candidate who accepted the position.
The wiki says the University of Toronto-Scarborough would have a short-list for the urban position by the Tuesday just past. Have they contact anyone yet??
Re: Wilmington open position. Does anyone know how many interviewees they are bringing in and when? The Wiki only shows one, and that is a place I'm very interested in (and where I made the first cut).
When people have accepted a position, is there a protocol on the blog for whether or not to name names? It seems like the need for anonymity ends, and the need to celebrate successes begins.
I see that Cuny-Queens posted another job ad. for demography position. Does it mean that they did not like anyone among applicants so far and decided to wait until they find other appropriate applicants to invite?
I received a letter from the University of Akron (Quant. Methods) telling me that the position has been filled. At least the letter was pleasant and mentioned that I might have been able to do the job.
anyone heard from Sac State? I interviewed there and thought they were supposed to be making a decision this past week, but they haven't come up yet as having made an offer.
7:34...I interviewed there as well (for the methods position) and was told the same but havent heard either....so if you interviewed for hte methods position as well, then there is probably at a max only one other person considered which still bodes well for us...
PLUS for me I was hoping they would take longer to make a decision since I have a few in January.
Good luck to you as well...especially if you interviewed for the social psych position! :)
For the Wilmington open position: the last note I received from them was that I was still being considered but that they were not bringing people out until January (they're moving on the crim position first). I'm sorry I don't know how many people they're bringing out.
The previous poster was incorrect. The position has not been accepted (as of 9pm last night). An offer has been made but not yet accepted. The person who was offered the position is considering multiple offers.
For those people on the job market who were asked to apply for a position what have your experiences been? Did you end up getting an interview? An offer? I'm just curious, since I've been asked by the head of a search committee to apply for a job. Thanks!
I was asked to apply for a position and didn't even make a long-shortlist, so it varies. I've heard of people being asked to apply for positions just to widen the applicant pool.
Does anyone have any sense of where Queens is on their junior open search? I heard a rumor that there was some movement...but I think they have a long winter break...can anyone shed some light on it?
Thanks, 6:04. I wonder what that means...long list, short list, interview time...? It seems strange to say only that they were interested in your candidacy. Please do keep us posted!
Re: Brown org studies -- it's weird, they have one person listed as giving a talk for that position on their dept news, but I have been watching that page all semester and haven't seen anyone else. Does this mean they are only interviewing one person for that? And two for the spatial analysis position?
Re: Brown. They interviewed more than 1 for the orgs position,and 4 for the spatial analysis position (interviews were all in late Nov/early Dec). They are meeting this week to make final decisions on offers.
I heard that American University is bringing out more candidates to interview (in Jan) for their methods position (the first offer they made for this position was turned down).
Has anyone heard anything about Occidental College's quantitative methods position or Wisconsin-Milwaukee's medical sociology position? The University of Maryland-Baltimore County has been offered to someone.
5:02--do you mean offers for interviews or offers for jobs?
For interviews, at my institution it takes about 1-4 days for the plan to interview voted on by the faculty to be approved by the dean and human rights folks (depends on holidays, weekends, travel schedule of dean).
For job offers, it can take as long as a few weeks for the vote of our faculty to turn into a phone call from the chair to our chosen candidate (things can sit on the desk at the deans office, paperwork lost etc).
for the person asking about yale, i *heard* that they brought out 4 or 5 people in one week and were expecting to decide on a first choice candidate immediately after the last job talk.
I also received a rejection from Colorado State today. Not the friendliest rejection either - an email that just said "see attached" and had a pdf of a cursory rejection letter attached.
Not only was the CSU letter an attachment, it was dated December 8 but emailed 10 days later. I really would have preferred to receive this on x-mass day, or maybe even January 1st (midnight) to start the year off on a good note.
My very unofficial take: the old wiki (wikihost) hasn't been taken down in a while--okay, a few days or so--and it appears to be more up to date than the new one (scratchpad). I haven't done a word-by-word search, though.
Does anyone know if other wikis are still being taken down?
I was worried about this two-wiki idea because people would be posting on one, both, or neither. It turned into a real mess, and in the end, the wiki vandal won. At any rate, I say keep posting on the old one at the very least. If you are ambitious, post on the new one too, but lets make sure that the old one has all of the info we possibly can.
I saw University of South Florida on the phone interview list. Yet they informed me that they would conduct their phone interview at the end of January. Does anyone hear from them to set up an phone interview? Also, any news from Western Carolina and Saint Anselm? Thanks.
Some of the good R1s are getting their offers turned down by their 2nd and even 3rd choices. These are places with 2/2 teaching loads and lots of research support. So, hang in there. The mortals may have a shot yet. The "stars" applied widely, and when push came to shove, they picked the top ranked and ivy schools, leaving the mid-ranked (but good) R1s for the rest of us...
7:36 - May I ask how you came about this information? Do you know several of the "stars" or do you how inside information from several SCs? I'd not doubting the information, but I'd like to know whether this is based on an N of 1. Thanks!
This situation isn't any different from any other year. What's crucial now is whether any of the schools that have been turned down decide to interview further.
This is such an inefficient way to run a market. All that money spent (not to mention all the greenhouse gas producing flights) and then many places won't even hire anyone. Why don't we move to the matching system?!
In response to 8:03, I have received this information from a few schools now (one I attend and some I do not attend). I agree with 6:51. The whole situation makes me angry.
The matching system is used in the medical field to place graduating medical students into their first jobs. It involves rankings on the part of both hospitals and the students, and then matches are made so that the preferences of both students and hospitals are optimized. Obviously, not everyone gets their first choice, but these are small sacrifices in order to have a system that produces a greater good.
I have to confess that I'm just thrilled to hear that some of these R1s are now scrambling, whether I will benefit from this windfall or not. Perhaps that ought to teach them about chasing stars and give THEM the same reality checks that us mortals get when we apply to the TOP 10 or Ivies. If they'd called me for an interview in the first round they would have had a sealed contract!
What is going on at UC Merced? Last news was that they were interviewing a few top candidates before the break. Did any offers go out/get accepted? Thanks!
I am very sympathetic to those who have pointed out the problems with the way the academic job market operates. However, I also suspect that these complaints are nothing new. I wonder if anyone has any suggestions as to how changes could really be made, does this seem like something we just have to endure?
Having had several friends go through the medical school residency match system, I have to agree that it could be a better way to operate. However, there are problems with that system also. In that system, schools have to invite and interview all the candidates they could potentially want - there is no "going back to the pool". I could see the so-called top schools all listing the same 3-4 candidates.
The academic job market seems to be more about prestige than the medical residency market which is more focused on matching people by specialty area. A key difference is that teaching hospitals only have their residents for 3-5 years, so they have less incentive to select people based on prestige. They also have more objective criteria to use when selecting candidates.
I'm going to have to agree with 2:41. The idea of a MD-type match system is interesting, but this is only for a few years during residency. They still apply for jobs after residency the same way other people do, and they make a hell of a lot more after residency than during. The hospitals get them cheaper during residency because they don't have a choice of where to go. PhDs generally do more time in grad school than MDs spend in med school. Neither system is perfect by any stretch, but do we want to have our pay be more limited because our choice in the situation is removed, especially given how long we've already spent in a sort of "apprenticeship"?
Got a rejection letter from University of Denver today (and I'm in Colorado so I'm probably one of the first to receive one), via snail mail. Looks like they offered to someone and it was accepted!
I see that someone accepted an offer at Cornell sociology (congratulations!). But does anyone know exactly how many offers Cornell made, and at what rank(s)? I heard there were at least two junior offers made, and am wondering if anyone can confirm/expand.
Any new information about Massachusetts-Amherst and whether or not a) their offers were accepted and b) they'll be interviewing for additional junior faculty positions?
Has anyone heard anything from Rutgers (open criminal justice searches)? I sent materials in November and have not even heard from Human Resources. Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Any chance that we could post the names of the people who have ACCEPTED offers? That hardly seems like something that needs to be kept confidential! It would be interesting to have all that information in one place.
Any chance that we could post the names of the people who have ACCEPTED offers? That hardly seems like something that needs to be kept confidential! It would be interesting to have all that information in one place.
What's with the names? What difference does it make? If names are so important to you, just go find them for yourself. They don't belong here, especially since the information on this blog cannot be considered reliable (many, many examples of this already exist).
as virtuous as you wish to sound, nobody is "trying to censor the free and open exchange of information." there are practical privacy realities to consider. this has been debated ad nauseum (last year also). your policy of "free and open access to information" would include names of interviewees, those who have offers, those who have turned down offers or been turned away, names of committee members.... where does one start/stop? only job candidates who have already been named as new hires by official announcement? are rumors ok? who is responsible for correcting misinformation? the blog is supposed to provide helpful information regading the job market. it is hard to imagine how naming names is helpful to anyone, especially if it is unwanted or inaccurate.
while most people who post on this blog are helpful and friendly folks, we have had enough examples of bad behavior to make it unwise to list any names. there is nothing to stop people from posting incorrect information, either accidentally or otherwise, that could be harmful to another person.
i think the anonymity of the blog is a good thing across the board. if you want to know who was hired for a given position, just keep an eye on the dept. website and it will show up there. there's no benefit to knowing that information now, other than satisfying one's curiosity. i sympathize - i am curious what amazing scholar got the job i wanted! but if we allow names, knowing my luck some wise guy would post that my job went to karl rove.
re Brown: I mentioned earlier that Brown had a top choice for the org position. I don't know if the offer has been made yet. I was a finalist but not the top choice.
Does anyone have any info on the University of Minnesota-Duluth job search. I know they brought out a couple of candidates, but don't know if they made an offer or if it was accepted.
re Brown: yes, I gave a job talk (I'm from the 12/28 12:18pm post). I was told by the chair directly that I was not the top choice (out of a total of three final candidates, I believe). It would have been a very nice gig; Brown is a wonderful place with great faculty and students.
I interviewed at Cal State Sacramento for the social psych position and received an email saying that someone else accepted the position. Don't you just love the notification process for these things?
Some chairs don't even do that. I've actually interviewed and not heard anything after the visit. An email is not that bad; it's the rejection that sucks more than the method of communication.
The notification process: Last month I had a good experience - the Chair of the dept contacted me by phone and explained the situation - that it wasn't me. It was courteous and professional, and I didn't feel too shattered as a result. One of my advisors suggested that I ask the SC about things I might have done wrong or things I could improve. I have yet to muster the courage, but it is a very sound idea.
RE: asking a SC what you could have done differently -- unless you insulted someone's mother (which you would probably remember) or something similar, once you get to the interview stage, it's much more about fit or priorities of the dept than about you. And no one really wants to be put in the position of having to say that you weren't hired because of one faction of the dept not having enough influence or banked capital. One dept chair told me this after an interview during my first time on the market, that there had been a "bloodbath" at the faculty meeting at which they discussed my interview. And, trust me, you don't want to have that conversation any more than most chairs and SCs want to.
RE: Cal State Sacramento: I interviewed for the quant position and got a call today from the SC chair telling me that they filled the position. I already figured that so I wasnt shocked or surprised.
But glad they called anyway since I am considering another offer.
But atleast they finally did call....I know others who never heard from the departments at all!
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«Oldest ‹Older 1601 – 1800 of 2327 Newer› Newest»The topic of this string is pretty straightforward, isn't it? "Post Information and Inquiries About Interviews and Status of Searches Here." The whole prestige debate is tiresome...
So....what what have you heard is the average number of interviews for someone not interested in R1's....
Sociology is a diverse--some would say fractured--field, with specialists here and there who barely understand each others' jargon. Yet there is one thing we can all rely on -- the fact that if we disagree, I will call your argument "unsociological." Bladow!
Toronto (theory) was supposed to have a shortlist by today. Any news there?
Any word on whether people have accepted offers at American U, Puget Sound or Northern Illinois or what the status of those searches are?
I went for first two years to a low-ranked public school and then transferred to a public R1 for junior and senior years.
My advisor had the chair of Harvard's dept. call me on the phone when I started thinking about applying to grad schools. Scared the shit out of me...impostor syndrome?
I am working class and believe me, at the low-ranked public state school there is no way in hell I would have had access to valued such social capital.
I love my wife and I stayed at the state school for graduate study where she was. Have a beautiful daughter now and if I went to Harvard or some other elite school far away, I wouldn't probably have her.
Is the Dec 10 update for the environmental position at University of Tennessee for UT-Knoxville or Chattanooga?
chattanooga
Congrats to the person who got the Chattanooga offer. There are some great people there.
To 10:06: I believe Puget Sound is interviewing a theory candidate this week
Actually, I've heard both Chattanooga and Knoxville have filled their environmental positions.
With regard to 2:26's comment yesterday: just because someone isn't at a top-5 program doesn't mean they couldn't get into a top-5 program and I think we should stop assuming that. I turned down a Top-2 program in favor of a lower-ranked program for a number of reasons. Sometimes being the big fish in the small pond isn't a bad thing either.
Has anyone heard whether Iowa State has made an offer?
According to the wiki (currently down), Iowa State did make an offer.
According to the wiki (currently down), Iowa State did make an offer.
I put the wiki back up. Double check your updates on it...
Any additional information on the status of the 2 Chicago offers? They were made over a month ago. Any hope that they will be flying out new candidates...I know that rejection letters were sent out awhile ago but I have yet to receive one. Is mine just lost in the mail? I know, I probably should not read too much into it...
I just saw the Auburn request for more information. Can someone tell me what this position is? I had not heard or seen this. Thanks!
RE: Auburn. Its a rural sociology position in the department of Rural Sociology and Agricultural Economics.
any news on Toronto (theory & urban)?
I understand that University of Virginia has scheduled interviews. Any idea how many interviewees they have brought in?
Northern IL University has made an offer and it was accepted.
RE American University
I only know of one of the positions (Methods), and the offer was turned down. No other info than that, sorry.
when was the knoxville environmental decision made? last week or this week? any idea?
Was it the methods or theory position that was accepted at Northern Illinois?
Any news on University of Wisonsin-Milwaukee or Grand Valley State University?
I second the request for more info on the Knoxville env soc position- does anyone know when the decision was made?
thank you!
What happened to Chicago? The wiki has said for a while that offers were made, but now there's no listing of Chicago at all. Did someone remove them from the wiki for a valid reason or was it tampering?
Updates:
Maryland made a senior offer. Don't know if they will make a junior one.
NYU: made three junior offers. Called candidates for Associate and joint searches.
Chicago: One of the offers is for the same person who was offers from at least 4 others top 20 places. I'll guess you'll have to wait. Though there is a strong chance the job offer will go to the 2nd on the list.
Knoxville environmental sociology - rumor/what I've heard is that they have made an offer, and it has been accepted.
University of Akron has scheduled visits for an is currently interviewing (3 candidates) for the global studies position.
NYU: 3 offers made. this means all 3 have already been contacted?
I turned down the #1 program in Soc. for one ranked in the 30s, and for good reason. Never regretted it. In general, it's the connections and reputation of your chair that matter most, not the ranking of the dept.
Meanwhile, ON topic: anyone hear anything from/about U of Southern Mississippi?
i propose that on next year's blog we have a string called "departmental stratification" for all manner of discussions about prestige, class, status, ranking fetishism, quality of life, etc... the discussions are great, but they also clog up the other practical aims of the blog strings...
Wiki says that someone has accepted UIC offer. Which position is this? Thanks.
anyone heard back from Valdosta since the phone interviews nearly a month ago?
Anyone heard from Ripon College or UW Platteville?
Does anyone know what is going on with the Maryland--College Park junior offer? Why has the senior offer been made but not the junior one?
Any new information on the status of Colorado State University?
re: Maryland. They were not that impressed by the junior candidates' performance, so they went first for the Senior people.
You know, I was just reading through the blog and I have a comment to the person with info on Maryland. Considering what is at stake, you come off as pretty heartless. Some or all of the people who interviewed for that job will know read/hear that the school was "not that impressed" with them.
Tact is a virtue.
9:46: I heartily second your observation.
re: Colorado State University
I emailed the chair of the search 2 weeks ago for an update and have heard nothing.
Any info on Holy Cross or Haverford?
I just noticed that Western Carolina had the short list. Any detailed information? Did they conduct the phone interview?
Anyone heard from Saint Anslem?
Thanks
I am a member of the maryland hiring committee and I do want to correct the information. In fact we made an offer to a junior person (and it was accepted). We also have not foreclosed making another offer to a junior candidate. The search remains open. We were highly impressed by each person who came to give a talk junior and senior alike.
the wiki vandal has struck again. s/he left us a message too.
I think it makes more sense to ignore the wiki and post information directly on the blog.
thanks, maryland search committee person. the "not that impressed" post sounded spiteful and i'm glad to hear that the committee felt otherwise.
Any news from Tufts lately? Wondering where in the process they are?
Just received a rejection letter from the UC Santa Cruz ethnic studies position.
Re: Ripon
Phone interviews will not take place until January, after the semester starts.
Re: 6:13 am--Which UIC position was accepted. An offer for the position in organizations/economy was accepted. Not sure about the theory position.
Two quick questions. First, what's the word on the Vermont searches? There was lots of discussion but nothing definitive posted on the wiki. Second, anybody know anything about the Canadian jobs that have posted this year? I've only seen UVic listed. Thanks!
It didn't make the wiki for whatever reason, but UT Austin made an offer some time ago.
What I have heard about Vermont is that there were some administrative issues that may prevent them from hiring this year.
What I have heard about Vermont is that there were some administrative issues that may prevent them from hiring this year.
Canadian jobs? Got a rejection from University of Windsor last week.
Has Wilmington scheduled interviews for both the Crim and Open positions?
I was told that Wilmington will interview for the open position in January.
Haverford's deadline is the 17th. I just sent my application in today, actually.
I heard (from a reliable source) that someone accepted the Northern Illinois theory position.
Does anybody know of UT Knoxville africana/sociology job status?
I heard UIC theory was accepted as well...
Tufts: confirming they have scheduled interviews
Haverford: note confirming complete application stated they will meet in Jan and interview in Feb
That's sad, that Haverford's moving so late. I suppose with a Dec 17 deadline it's unlikely they'd move earlier, but I'd been kind of hoping they'd start calling people before the holidays.
does anyone know about SIU at Carbondale? The deadline was more than a month ago.
re: 8:28. UT Knoxville brought in three candidates until this week and they are supposed to hear next week.
while i'm sure most people have already guessed this, i figured i'd post that the berkeley job was offered and accepted. i heard this last week from the candidate who accepted the position.
Heard Tufts started interviewing end of last month.
The wiki says the University of Toronto-Scarborough would have a short-list for the urban position by the Tuesday just past. Have they contact anyone yet??
Re: Wilmington open position. Does anyone know how many interviewees they are bringing in and when? The Wiki only shows one, and that is a place I'm very interested in (and where I made the first cut).
When people have accepted a position, is there a protocol on the blog for whether or not to name names? It seems like the need for anonymity ends, and the need to celebrate successes begins.
I see that Cuny-Queens posted another job ad. for demography position. Does it mean that they did not like anyone among applicants so far and decided to wait until they find other appropriate applicants to invite?
I received a letter from the University of Akron (Quant. Methods) telling me that the position has been filled. At least the letter was pleasant and mentioned that I might have been able to do the job.
Wiki says that Drake sent out rejection letters, does anyone know if the letter says the position has been filled?
Drake: The "review and selection process" has been completed.
Uof Toronto (urban) has invited some candidates, not sure if all.
About Toronto: would you happen to know about the Theory position as well?
Does anyone have any inside info on USC? I heard they were meeting yesterday to make a final decision. Thanks!
RE: SIU-Carbondale
I heard through the grapevine that SIUC search committee met and had a shortlist before Thanksgiving.
anyone heard from Sac State? I interviewed there and thought they were supposed to be making a decision this past week, but they haven't come up yet as having made an offer.
University of Nevada Las Vegas has a short list and will meet again after the holidays. Ohio State- Marion has a short list too.
7:34...I interviewed there as well (for the methods position) and was told the same but havent heard either....so if you interviewed for hte methods position as well, then there is probably at a max only one other person considered which still bodes well for us...
PLUS for me I was hoping they would take longer to make a decision since I have a few in January.
Good luck to you as well...especially if you interviewed for the social psych position!
:)
For the Wilmington open position: the last note I received from them was that I was still being considered but that they were not bringing people out until January (they're moving on the crim position first). I'm sorry I don't know how many people they're bringing out.
~Benny
Berkeley:
The previous poster was incorrect. The position has not been accepted (as of 9pm last night). An offer has been made but not yet accepted. The person who was offered the position is considering multiple offers.
-cpl
For those people on the job market who were asked to apply for a position what have your experiences been? Did you end up getting an interview? An offer? I'm just curious, since I've been asked by the head of a search committee to apply for a job. Thanks!
I was invited by the chair to apply and got the job in the end. Go for it!
I was asked to apply for a position and didn't even make a long-shortlist, so it varies. I've heard of people being asked to apply for positions just to widen the applicant pool.
Does anybody know if Yale has made an offer?
anyone heard from/about stanford?
Stanford has made an offer but it has not been accepted yet.
Does anyone have any sense of where Queens is on their junior open search? I heard a rumor that there was some movement...but I think they have a long winter break...can anyone shed some light on it?
Thanks!
Queens College contacted me last week saying that they had finished screening candidates and that they were interested in my candidacy.
They wanted to know if I was still interested.
Thanks, 6:04. I wonder what that means...long list, short list, interview time...? It seems strange to say only that they were interested in your candidacy. Please do keep us posted!
Any word on the theory positions at Puget Sound and American U?
CUNY-Queens has conducted telephone interviews.
The Wiki says that Pepperdine made an offer. To whomever posted this--did you receive the offer or is this through the grapevine? Thanks!
Queens is still conducting phone interviews.
Queens:
Any news about demography position?
Re: Queens
Offer for senior position was made but still not accepted as of this weekend.
Any news from Brown, org position?
I got a call from Brown on Friday. I about screamed when I heard "This is X and I'm with Brown University."
Turns out I was randomly selected for a survey. What are the chances! Just thought someone might get a chuckle out of that. I laughed all day.
Re: Brown org studies -- it's weird, they have one person listed as giving a talk for that position on their dept news, but I have been watching that page all semester and haven't seen anyone else. Does this mean they are only interviewing one person for that? And two for the spatial analysis position?
Re: Brown. They interviewed more than 1 for the orgs position,and 4 for the spatial analysis position (interviews were all in late Nov/early Dec). They are meeting this week to make final decisions on offers.
11:24: Should we call it cruel and unusual way of doing research on applicants? :)
I heard that American University is bringing out more candidates to interview (in Jan) for their methods position (the first offer they made for this position was turned down).
Has anyone heard anything about Occidental College's quantitative methods position or Wisconsin-Milwaukee's medical sociology position? The University of Maryland-Baltimore County has been offered to someone.
how long after they meet do they start sending out offers?
Kalamazoo College has said that its search this year is suspended.
Stanford has not officially extended an offer to a junior candidate. This was confirmed tome by the chair of the department today.
a 2nd confirmation that Stanford has NOT made an offer to a junior candidate. they brought 3 juniors out, but no offer as of yet.
5:02--do you mean offers for interviews or offers for jobs?
For interviews, at my institution it takes about 1-4 days for the plan to interview voted on by the faculty to be approved by the dean and human rights folks (depends on holidays, weekends, travel schedule of dean).
For job offers, it can take as long as a few weeks for the vote of our faculty to turn into a phone call from the chair to our chosen candidate (things can sit on the desk at the deans office, paperwork lost etc).
"human rights" folks?!
"human resources" folks probably. although that's an interesting sociological thought enterprise in and of itself
for the person asking about yale, i *heard* that they brought out 4 or 5 people in one week and were expecting to decide on a first choice candidate immediately after the last job talk.
Anyone with info on Fordham? Just one mention on WIKI, no Xs. Do they have an inside candidate?
USC made an offer.
Got a rejection from Colorado State today.
Cal-State Northridge has made an offer
I also received a rejection from Colorado State today. Not the friendliest rejection either - an email that just said "see attached" and had a pdf of a cursory rejection letter attached.
Not only was the CSU letter an attachment, it was dated December 8 but emailed 10 days later. I really would have preferred to receive this on x-mass day, or maybe even January 1st (midnight) to start the year off on a good note.
I did an interview and the wait for an offer/rejection letter just an anxiety attack waiting to happen
Thank you! I was doing just fine this job market, until I interviewed at a place I'd really like.
Now I really hope that whoever gets offered that job (if it's not me!) posts it on the wiki. Then I'd at least know an offer is that much less likely.
Are we supposed to update the old wiki? New wiki? both? I'm confused.
I apologize for not updating the wiki with things that I know. I am paranoid about people finding out who posted!
My very unofficial take: the old wiki (wikihost) hasn't been taken down in a while--okay, a few days or so--and it appears to be more up to date than the new one (scratchpad). I haven't done a word-by-word search, though.
Does anyone know if other wikis are still being taken down?
I say, f*ck the wiki, just post here, where we trust alba to not track our ip addresses, and no vandal can mess it up.
Got a rejection letter from Colorado State via email attachment
I was worried about this two-wiki idea because people would be posting on one, both, or neither. It turned into a real mess, and in the end, the wiki vandal won. At any rate, I say keep posting on the old one at the very least. If you are ambitious, post on the new one too, but lets make sure that the old one has all of the info we possibly can.
I saw University of South Florida on the phone interview list. Yet they informed me that they would conduct their phone interview at the end of January.
Does anyone hear from them to set up an phone interview?
Also, any news from Western Carolina and Saint Anselm?
Thanks.
Does anyone know if the interview for University of Richmond is for the Sociology Dept. or Leadership Studies?
Some of the good R1s are getting their offers turned down by their 2nd and even 3rd choices. These are places with 2/2 teaching loads and lots of research support. So, hang in there. The mortals may have a shot yet. The "stars" applied widely, and when push came to shove, they picked the top ranked and ivy schools, leaving the mid-ranked (but good) R1s for the rest of us...
7:36 - May I ask how you came about this information? Do you know several of the "stars" or do you how inside information from several SCs? I'd not doubting the information, but I'd like to know whether this is based on an N of 1. Thanks!
This situation isn't any different from any other year. What's crucial now is whether any of the schools that have been turned down decide to interview further.
This is such an inefficient way to run a market. All that money spent (not to mention all the greenhouse gas producing flights) and then many places won't even hire anyone. Why don't we move to the matching system?!
In response to 8:03, I have received this information from a few schools now (one I attend and some I do not attend). I agree with 6:51. The whole situation makes me angry.
6:51 What do you mean by the matching system?
I heard from a reliable source that the senior CUNY demographer offer has been accepted. Congrats to CUNY- they're getting a leader in the field!
The matching system is used in the medical field to place graduating medical students into their first jobs. It involves rankings on the part of both hospitals and the students, and then matches are made so that the preferences of both students and hospitals are optimized. Obviously, not everyone gets their first choice, but these are small sacrifices in order to have a system that produces a greater good.
I have to confess that I'm just thrilled to hear that some of these R1s are now scrambling, whether I will benefit from this windfall or not. Perhaps that ought to teach them about chasing stars and give THEM the same reality checks that us mortals get when we apply to the TOP 10 or Ivies. If they'd called me for an interview in the first round they would have had a sealed contract!
Which R1s are rumored to be going back to the drawing board?
What is going on at UC Merced? Last news was that they were interviewing a few top candidates before the break. Did any offers go out/get accepted? Thanks!
SUNY Albany's offer was accepted.
I am very sympathetic to those who have pointed out the problems with the way the academic job market operates. However, I also suspect that these complaints are nothing new. I wonder if anyone has any suggestions as to how changes could really be made, does this seem like something we just have to endure?
Having had several friends go through the medical school residency match system, I have to agree that it could be a better way to operate. However, there are problems with that system also. In that system, schools have to invite and interview all the candidates they could potentially want - there is no "going back to the pool". I could see the so-called top schools all listing the same 3-4 candidates.
The academic job market seems to be more about prestige than the medical residency market which is more focused on matching people by specialty area. A key difference is that teaching hospitals only have their residents for 3-5 years, so they have less incentive to select people based on prestige. They also have more objective criteria to use when selecting candidates.
I'm going to have to agree with 2:41. The idea of a MD-type match system is interesting, but this is only for a few years during residency. They still apply for jobs after residency the same way other people do, and they make a hell of a lot more after residency than during. The hospitals get them cheaper during residency because they don't have a choice of where to go. PhDs generally do more time in grad school than MDs spend in med school. Neither system is perfect by any stretch, but do we want to have our pay be more limited because our choice in the situation is removed, especially given how long we've already spent in a sort of "apprenticeship"?
Got a rejection letter from University of Denver today (and I'm in Colorado so I'm probably one of the first to receive one), via snail mail. Looks like they offered to someone and it was accepted!
I see that someone accepted an offer at Cornell sociology (congratulations!). But does anyone know exactly how many offers Cornell made, and at what rank(s)? I heard there were at least two junior offers made, and am wondering if anyone can confirm/expand.
About Cornell sociology...I know one of the people who received an offer. There were three junior offers made.
Any new information about Massachusetts-Amherst and whether or not a) their offers were accepted and b) they'll be interviewing for additional junior faculty positions?
UC-Merced is moving forward the files to make offers to 1 or 2 of their junior candidates.
I just restored the wiki again. The vandal appears to be getting tired, but s/he's hanging in there...
Does anybody knwo what's going on with Brown? Are they going to make an offer before Christmas?
North Central canceled their search, made 2 offers which were both declined.
Brown has made an offer.
Re Brown: Is this offer for Spatial Analysis or Organizational Studies?
Loyola Chicago has made an offer for the religion position.
Brown: spatial analysis, I believe.
UT-Austin offer (pop health) was accepted.
Brown has a top choice for the org position, they are just waiting for formal approval for the preferred hire.
Anyone hear anything about the U. of Illinois Urbana Sociology/Latino Studies position?
They've had 3 candidates interview.
That is, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign has had 3 candidates interview for the Soc/Latino Studies position.
Arkansas State interviewed quite a while back. Any offers yet on the Soc position there?
Has anyone heard anything from Rutgers (open criminal justice searches)? I sent materials in November and have not even heard from Human Resources. Thanks and happy holidays to all.
Is there any update of UT-Knoxville Africana/Socio position? They are supposed to notify this week, but I have not heard of anything from them.
Dept was supposed to announce the offer before Christmas (Interview was finished by Dec 14th), but they have not announced.
Is it ok to email to check status? Have you emailed to asky your status? Thanks for sharing your experience.
The person with the Indiana offer accepted.
any info on the UT Knoxville-environmental position?
Has Brown made an org offer yet?
I have heard from a reliable source that Barnard made an offer.
Does anyone know if Montclair State has made an offer/if so has it been accepted?
Any chance that we could post the names of the people who have ACCEPTED offers? That hardly seems like something that needs to be kept confidential! It would be interesting to have all that information in one place.
Any chance that we could post the names of the people who have ACCEPTED offers? That hardly seems like something that needs to be kept confidential! It would be interesting to have all that information in one place.
What's with the names? What difference does it make? If names are so important to you, just go find them for yourself. They don't belong here, especially since the information on this blog cannot be considered reliable (many, many examples of this already exist).
I am all for posting names. What's with trying to censor the free and open exchange of information? If someone wants to post names, go for it!
as virtuous as you wish to sound, nobody is "trying to censor the free and open exchange of information." there are practical privacy realities to consider. this has been debated ad nauseum (last year also). your policy of "free and open access to information" would include names of interviewees, those who have offers, those who have turned down offers or been turned away, names of committee members.... where does one start/stop? only job candidates who have already been named as new hires by official announcement? are rumors ok? who is responsible for correcting misinformation? the blog is supposed to provide helpful information regading the job market. it is hard to imagine how naming names is helpful to anyone, especially if it is unwanted or inaccurate.
while most people who post on this blog are helpful and friendly folks, we have had enough examples of bad behavior to make it unwise to list any names. there is nothing to stop people from posting incorrect information, either accidentally or otherwise, that could be harmful to another person.
i think the anonymity of the blog is a good thing across the board. if you want to know who was hired for a given position, just keep an eye on the dept. website and it will show up there. there's no benefit to knowing that information now, other than satisfying one's curiosity. i sympathize - i am curious what amazing scholar got the job i wanted! but if we allow names, knowing my luck some wise guy would post that my job went to karl rove.
-cpl
Received a rejection letter from St. Anselm that says the position has been filled.
re Brown: I mentioned earlier that Brown had a top choice for the org position. I don't know if the offer has been made yet. I was a finalist but not the top choice.
Does anyone have any info on the University of Minnesota-Duluth job search. I know they brought out a couple of candidates, but don't know if they made an offer or if it was accepted.
Re Brown: Did they invite you to give a job talk? How do you know that you were not a top choice? Thanks.
Yes, Brown had talks for the Org position.
re Brown: yes, I gave a job talk (I'm from the 12/28 12:18pm post). I was told by the chair directly that I was not the top choice (out of a total of three final candidates, I believe). It would have been a very nice gig; Brown is a wonderful place with great faculty and students.
Kent State - one offer accepted.
Montclair State made an offer and it was accepted.
I interviewed at Cal State Sacramento for the social psych position and received an email saying that someone else accepted the position. Don't you just love the notification process for these things?
Some chairs don't even do that. I've actually interviewed and not heard anything after the visit. An email is not that bad; it's the rejection that sucks more than the method of communication.
The notification process: Last month I had a good experience - the Chair of the dept contacted me by phone and explained the situation - that it wasn't me. It was courteous and professional, and I didn't feel too shattered as a result. One of my advisors suggested that I ask the SC about things I might have done wrong or things I could improve. I have yet to muster the courage, but it is a very sound idea.
RE: asking a SC what you could have done differently -- unless you insulted someone's mother (which you would probably remember) or something similar, once you get to the interview stage, it's much more about fit or priorities of the dept than about you. And no one really wants to be put in the position of having to say that you weren't hired because of one faction of the dept not having enough influence or banked capital. One dept chair told me this after an interview during my first time on the market, that there had been a "bloodbath" at the faculty meeting at which they discussed my interview. And, trust me, you don't want to have that conversation any more than most chairs and SCs want to.
RE: Cal State Sacramento: I interviewed for the quant position and got a call today from the SC chair telling me that they filled the position. I already figured that so I wasnt shocked or surprised.
But glad they called anyway since I am considering another offer.
But atleast they finally did call....I know others who never heard from the departments at all!
Any news on NC State's environmental soc positions?
I heard that NC State would be making their decision about who to interview and contacting those applicants in mid-January.
Has anyone heard anything about the George Mason position?
I am pretty certain the GMU made an offer and the offer was accepted. This I heard through the grapevine.
UW-Milwaukee's offer has been accepted.
Anyone hear anything from Arkansas State (quant soc position)?
I noticed someone had received a rejection from UW-Stout. Does anyone know if they have started interviewing yet?
Thanks 2:03. Does anyone else have any confirmation on George Mason?
Anyone hear anything about UNC-Wilmington's searches? The interview(s?) for the open has been posted for awhile, with no updates.
RE: UNC Wilmington. I was told they werent interviewing for the open until end of Jan. The interviews they have had are for the crim position.
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