The wiki shows that CS-Fullerton has scheduled phone interviews AND sent rejection letters. I haven't heard from them either way - should I contact them?
HELP! I fly out tomorrow for an interview and have yet to receive an itinerary and I was told I would be picked up at the airport but have no other info....Any suggestions? I have no idea what to expect, who to look for, or how I will find them.....
assuming it's too late to call them, I would email all the people you have been in contact with (especially the department secretaries) and give them your cell phone # and flights.
but i know what you mean--i had an interview last year where i had to catch a cab at the airport and find my way to the department (which isn't always that easy on a big campus and when your driver has limited english), only to wait for an hour for some grad student to show up and give me a key to a room in a seminary, which was almost a mile away (and I had to haul my bags). it wasn't the most welcoming start to the interview, to say the least.
good luck--i'm sure they will be in touch. you'll probably see someone at baggage claim with a sign.
5:56 roll with it and enjoy your trip. be sure to have a couple of phone numbers at the ready in case you have to call someone. you may be inconvenienced... you may not. remember that you are checking them out as much as they are checking you out. if the other functions of this department are this disorganized, big red flag!!!
I absolutely agree that you should interpret how well they take care of you during your campus visit as an indication of how you will be valued as a member of the faculty.
Re: CUNY. If you look at the wiki you'll see the offer was for the more senior position RE: UBC, they contacted a colleague of mine to invite him, so my guess is they are already inviting candidates
Has anyone heard anything new about Cornell's PAM demography position? According to the wiki, it looks like one person has been invited for an interview. Has the interview already happened? Was an offer made? Have any other candidates been notified? Thanks.
it would be great if the wiki readers among us could keep up with the x's - that way the rest of us have a better idea whether people have been notified about being shortlisted (or maybe even about how many people have been called in for interviews). thanks!
Re Valdosta: I had a phone interview with them a couple of weeks ago too, and I haven't heard anything back from them either. Of my 3 phone interviews, that was the one I felt the least positive about afterward. I'd be interested in hearing if others had the same feeling.
6:43: Yes, social security numbers, mailing addresses, shoe sizes...that's exactly what I was curious about. Seriously, were you born a jackass, or should I just attribute it to job market stress?
I just assumed that on a job market blog people would be smart enough to know I was asking about scheduling/interview details without having to spell it out - when did they start scheduling interviews? How many candidates are they bringing in? Have they contacted everyone?
I was contacted by Princeton to schedule an interview earlier this week. I don't know the answer to any of your questions (well, perhaps shoe size). I wish I did.
Regarding the RWJF Health Policy and Health & Society postdocs, you would get an e-mail around Dec. 15th that you made it to the interview rounds. If you don't get an e-mail, you will receive snail mail by the end of January that your application will not go any further.
I know one person who has a Princeton interview, but s/he asked me not to reveal his/her shoe size at this time.
(Actually I do know someone - this person has several other interviews also and I'm guessing will get multiple offers. I know someone else who has been contacted to find out if they are still interested, but have not scheduled an interview yet. Or if they have, I haven't heard about it yet, which is likely I guess since this all happened a few days ago.)
In case anyone is dying to know, I wear a size 9.5 women's shoe. Unless I'm wearing heels. Then I wear a 10.
I wonder if CPL and I know the same person who is interviewing at Princeton and has had other interviews at top places. It seems like a really competitive year for the demography positions.
Its possible. I think one thing to keep in mind is that just because six people "know someone" who got an interview, that doesn't mean there are 6 people. We might all know the same person!
I do think there are several very impressive candidates on the market this year, both in demography and other sub-fields. I assume a lot of us know the same well-known candidates within our subfields.
I took U of Vermont off the wiki. I confirmed with the search chair today that they have not brought anyone in for any interviews. Makes me distrust the wiki! Why would somebody put something up there that was not true?
6:26, that's why it is called a rumor mill, not a verified information mill... there are countless ways for inaccurate information to wind up posted on this blog, and most bear no ill-intentions.
Can corroborate 11:28 with Sac State interviewing and West Georgia phone interviewing with an intent to let campus candidates know around the first of the year.... p.s. 11:28 you must be my competition!!!!!!!
hello competition! add another to the list, i too did a phone interview with west georgia. i really appreciated the frankness of their conversation. others should be so transparent.
I too interviewed with West Georgia by phone this week. Keep in mind they are hiring for up to four positions, so we may not be in direct competition with each other. Regardless, good luck all!
Anyone hear anything about Loyola (urban hire)? I know they've interviewed some candidates, but I was wondering if they'd made an offer or if perhaps they would dip back into the pool...? (I know it's grasping for straws, but hey - it's the job market.)
Yeah; I put Vermont on the wiki because I heard that a friend-of-a-friend was interviewing there. But, it was second-hand info, so could have been wrong. But, I'm kind of doubtful. Are there two positions? This was for the race position.
for the person seeking info on the berkeley democracy/diversity position, they are interviewing at this point. other people who made the midlist but not the campus interviews have now been notified.
Re: Berkeley. If you look carefully at their website Berkeley has finished with the interviews. They had 5 people over and will decide on Monday who is getting the call. Good luck!! Re: Rice, my guess is that -as we did last year- you have to wait till September and check at the school's website who got the job.
Does anyone know what is happening with the Eckerd College search? I see that they have scheduled campus interviews. Have they happened? If so, if you feel like sharing, what were your impressions?
re: Eckerd. According to my info - their initial offer was declined and they are deciding whether to go back to their short list and bring in another round of interviews. It is a good job, very student-centered but with better support for research than other schools its size.
Did something happen to the wiki list of interviews, offers, etc.? When I click on the link, I get a message saying that the page doesn't exist yet. Anyone else experiencing this problem?
It did work, but then someone put an older restore over it... To the person who restored using Google cache, that's not necessary. You can restore based on a previous update, which I have done again over your cached restore. It uses an update from earlier today, which is better than the 12/1 cache. -m
Sorry - I was the one who restored using the google cache. I didn't realize that the old revisions were still there, and could be restored.
The person who deleted the page also deleted several others at the same time (psych (again), anthro, bio). Last week they deleted psychology. So, it might happen again.
sorry to add to the list of what about this position and that position - but, anybody heard anything about CUNY-Queens (demography and/or race) or UC-Merced?
How about if the tech-savvy also out the IP markers of this person? Preferably in bold print at the top of the wiki? That was remarkably successful last year on the policy jobs wiki. It never disappeared again.
I don't think posting the IP address will help. The person who's deleting the wiki has a dynamic IP address, but it's registered in Reston, VA. Based on the address of the provider, it looks like it's probably a university-owned IP.
Last week when I restored the psych wiki, when it was deleted by this person, I posted the IP and location in bold at the top. Didn't work - the psych wiki got deleted twice more. It's since been moved to another wikihost.
I believe that an IP addressed registered in "Reston, VA" means it's an AOL account. But, it could be any AOL account (i.e. from anywhere in the U.S.). So, not too helpful.
If you put an IP address into a whois search like that on domaintools.com you should see if it is registered to university and, if not generally where it is located (not just where the provider is registered). Believe me I know, I track the traffic on my site to see which universities have visited.
8:34am - Do you mean Mount St. Mary's University? If so, then I received an email from them last week stating they had made a shortlist and checking if these people were still interested in the position. I've heard nothing more since then.
Someone has just removed the wiki again. I've been saving it periodically since it started disappearing and had just saved it so it should be as it was at about 8.30pm tonight. If everyone saves the page every now again I bet we can outfox the moron removing it.
I hear you Karl - as if the job hunt experience isn't stressful enough already. Everyone keep on saving the page and the phantom wiki remover will be thwarted!
The phantom wiki remover just struck again, but I had saved it at about 4:50pm today so I simply reposted that info. If you added anything between 4:50pm and 5:50pm please be sure to repost that info. Cheers.
Looks like they got a bunch this time: geography, religion, education, anthro, chemistry and classics.
I find this whole thing fascinating - the blogs, wikis, the dissemination of knowledge. I really hope one of us is studying this.
I know on most of the interviews I've gone on, these digital information sharing practices (faulty as though they may sometimes be) come as a complete surprise to the search committee.
Re: wiki idiot. I've reposted the same 4:50pm (eastern time) version I posted when they deleted earlier today as detailed a few posts above. I shall try continue to save the page every few hours or so, so at worst we lose just a few additions.
The wiki says that University of Maryland College Park scheduled interviews for 4 people (if I am reading that correctly), but that's only for the junior candidates. 5 people were scheduled for the senior candidates. In case anyone was wondering.
Does anyone know anything at all about the University of Northern Iowa theory search advertised on asanet? Deadline was 10-1, but I've heard nothing - not even rejection - and no one seems to be discussing it.
the psych wiki has also been deleted several times in the past week. we're now using a wikidot site (http://psychjobs.wikidot.com/psych-job-search-07-08) and it seems to be working well. as far as i know, no information has been deleted yet...
re: Univ of Toronto (Scarborough) & its urban search
There were postings a week or two back about this search possibly being called off. However, it appears to be "on" so far. Today I got an impersonal email saying they now have a long list and that a short list will be drawn up after a Tuesday meeting in Toronto.
Fordham University is listed as having scheduled an interview/s. Is this for the open/methods position (Lincoln Center campus) or the urban/immigration position (Rose Hill campus)?
Wiki is gone again. Its great to see that this idiot has so much free time on his/her hands that they can troll these sites and remove this stuff. Since this is obviously going to continue, I woule like to request that when someone adds an offer or acceptance to the wiki that they also post it in the blog under the appropriate section. That way we can always be getting the most important info regularly without worrying about missing it because of the deletions.
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I got a rejection email today from the RWJF Health and Society Scholars program. :-( Shouldn't be suprised...if you look at who they selected in previous years (on their website), it appears that they just trade people across their own schools. You don't see very many scholars selected at all from places other than Berkeley, Columbia, Princeton, UCLA, Wisconsin, Michigan, UPenn, or Harvard. If anybody hears anything from the Health Policy Scholars program, it would be great if you post it on here. Thanks.
RWJ HSS has selected sociologists recently from UT-Austin, UC-Boulder, Penn State, UCSF, U Illinois Champaign-Urbana, and NYU. Good schools, all, but not in your list.
10:51- look at their picks from last year. Here is the breakdown: Harvard (5), Princeton (1), U Michigan (1), UCLA (1), Johns Hopkins (1), Columbia (1), Brown (1), UNC Chapel Hill (1), U Penn (1), NYU (1- but has PhD from Berkeley), Ohio State (1, but did extensive health research outside of the country). Looks like a lot of Ivy and top ranked schools to me!
10:59; 10:51 here. I hear you. Just pointing out that last year wasn't necessarily representative, because I don't like to see my program publicly maligned.
I got my rejection e-mail for the RWJF Health and Society program today too. As mentioned before in this blog, there are two programs available for sociologists: Health Policy and Health & Society. If you really look at the candidates selected for each program, the Health Policy definitely favors candidates from the elite schools.
Ah, I'm not running the program, I'm in the program. But, I was contacted around this time in December via email and phone. It is extremely well-organized so rest assured they will get in touch with you!
I guess the point is that as scientists, we draw conclusions based upon trends (not exceptions). I see the trend as the being that the RWJF program favors IVY and top-ranked R1s much more so than R2s and lower ranked R1s. Of course there are exceptions, but even the exceptions tend to be more qualified (have done previous health research or worked in the health field) than their IVY and top-ranked piers. Seems to me that you have to prove yourself more if you don't come from the elite. I don't think you will ever see a year when scholars from Harvard and Berkeley are not the most highly represented picks. Thats not mailigning anything- its representing the data...
Well, of course. You enroll in top ranked programs because you are provided certain benefits. In addition to--on average--a stronger graduate training, the top R1s generally have a density of (ASA oriented) social capital that makes it easier to find a (good) job. It's annoying how people equate being in a top program with more rigid forms of social privilege. Acknowledging racial and class differences in early academic success, students in lower ranked programs (myself included) could have gone to top ranked programs had they--for the most part--worked harder as an undergrad.
Anyone know anything about the searches at UC Santa Cruz's Latin American and Latino Studies program? I know this is kind of off topic, but I'm not aware of any similar resource for Latin Am Studies, and I figured if I applied, I'm probably not the only sociologist to do so.
In response to 12:56 - here we go again. No, there are those out there who went to smaller state colleges due to family economics and who worked quite hard (often holding down jobs while their friends partied). Even with that as the case, and with very good GPAs (in some cases 4.0s or very close), along with good GRE scores (1200 range), those from smaller or non-name public state schools are usually not considered by the top 20-top 30 programs for an M.A. or Ph.D. (let alone the truly elite ones). Nice try on sneaking the "didn't work hard enough" hypothesis by everyone though.
12:56 here. I concede that some individuals enroll in less prestigious programs because of nonacademic reasons, but that doesn't take away from the point that top tier schools--which are composed of very high achieving students--provide unique benefits than non-top schools can't. I also take issue with your statement that students from smaller or less known state schools are "not considered" by top 20 programs. This is simply ridiculous. One could easily make the argument that students from "big-name" schools actually have a harder time being considered in top programs simply due to the fact that it is more challenging to work closely and thus get good letters from faculty. Regardless of which students are more "disadvantaged," it is not a school-ranking effect. There is no vast R1 conspiracy against students from regional state university.
12:56, 2:18...Its not about conspiracy. Its about a very clear caste effect. Once you are in a low-ranked college (whether it be due to economics or other reasons), its hard to ever get out. If this is a race, people who went to undergrad at a prestigious U are already halfway to the finish line when it comes to grad school. Same analogy holds at the grad school/job market level. The disadvantage of not having a prestigious letter writer at your R1 does not trump the disadvantage of not being able to get in to an R1 to begin with. I would be willing to match GPAs, GRE scores, comp exams, statistical skills, research experience, and dissertation with any one of the R1 PhD grads. I am betting I would hold my own against most of them (and that was while holding down full and part time jobs through both undergrad and grad school). But RWJF doesn't want me because I am not prestigious enough. Lets get real, people born into working class families, who went to small town public schools, who didn't have the guidance or mentorship from early on didn't know where to begin when it came to college. Somehow we made it through pretty successfully just to find out that we were screwed from the beginning.
I turned down an offer to do my PhD in a top 5 program. Went to a smaller state school instead, to work with 2 leading experts in my chosen specialty.
Anyone who says we're less intelligent can go up against me any day. Many people make decisions for schools (and jobs!) based on more than just prestige.
Ok. I generally agree with what you're saying. I suppose we differ in how we frame this so-called caste system (which I don't think is nearly as rigid as popularly thought). If we're talking about class differentials here then call it that-although I'm not sure I would necessarily buy that either. RWJF is an extremely competitive competition, and you were probably not selected not because you didn't go to Harvard (sorry for the triple negative), but because a handful of other applicants had qualifications that fit better with the program objectives. Let's get real-what is the utility in RWJF selecting a less-capable Harvard PhD over someone more qualified from a lesser ranked program?
Regarding Lehigh, they have a long-short list and contacted me last week for additional stuff. From what I know, they will be meeting this week to hammer down to the final 4 who will then be interviewed in mid Jan.
How about that we keep this section of the blog devoted solely to the discussion of the status of searches and relevant interview inquiries? We are all stressed out, but there is nothing new in these posts that complain about how picky top schools are.
This is 2:48. What's really depressing is that as highly educated as we all are, it still isn't possible to have a scholarly debate on this forum without people getting in a huff. Is this a job market thing, an anonymous forum thing, or a sociology thing? Your guess is as good as mine. blah blah blah.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1401 – 1600 of 2327 Newer› Newest»The wiki shows that CS-Fullerton has scheduled phone interviews AND sent rejection letters. I haven't heard from them either way - should I contact them?
Albany School of Criminal Justice has made an offer for a junior position, but I don't know about Sociology.
UAlbany Soc made an offer over a week ago.
I'm curious about what's going on with the Michigan State University med soc position (Soc/Lymann Briggs). Anyone have any leads?
I got rejected from Hope (College).
RE: Monclair State University - I am waiting on tenderhooks too. My phone interview was over two weeks ago now!
Re: Montclair--I'm second on the tenderhook waiting list. Had my phone interview two weeks ago also.
Montclair-tenderhooks-allies, do you know what their teaching load? Someone mentioned 4/4. Does that sound familiar?
Has Berkeley completed their job talks? any offers out?
How many people on the Yale shortlist, any idea?
Does Yale already have a shortlist?
One of my friends is on the Yale shortlist.
Any info on the University of Wisconsin-Madison? Have they scheduled any interviews?
I second the request for info on the med soc position (Lyman Briggs College) at Michigan State.
anyone heard from cu-denver?
anyone heard from cal state sonoma?
HELP! I fly out tomorrow for an interview and have yet to receive an itinerary and I was told I would be picked up at the airport but have no other info....Any suggestions? I have no idea what to expect, who to look for, or how I will find them.....
It's hillarious that you are flying without an itinerary. I really wonder what school that could be.
assuming it's too late to call them, I would email all the people you have been in contact with (especially the department secretaries) and give them your cell phone # and flights.
but i know what you mean--i had an interview last year where i had to catch a cab at the airport and find my way to the department (which isn't always that easy on a big campus and when your driver has limited english), only to wait for an hour for some grad student to show up and give me a key to a room in a seminary, which was almost a mile away (and I had to haul my bags). it wasn't the most welcoming start to the interview, to say the least.
good luck--i'm sure they will be in touch. you'll probably see someone at baggage claim with a sign.
Thank you 5:53 and 5:58....I needed to hear that!
:)
Berkeley is still interviewing. I know they have an interview scheduled either at the end of this week or the beginning of next week.
5:56
roll with it and enjoy your trip. be sure to have a couple of phone numbers at the ready in case you have to call someone. you may be inconvenienced... you may not. remember that you are checking them out as much as they are checking you out. if the other functions of this department are this disorganized, big red flag!!!
RE Wisconisin:
I got a request for writing samples last week for the open area position.
Any news on the status of the Assistant Professor in Demography search at CUNY? Have they started interviewing? Do they have a short-list?
I've heard indirectly that an offer was made but I don't know if it was for the Associate or the Assistant Prof position.
Thanks!
I absolutely agree that you should interpret how well they take care of you during your campus visit as an indication of how you will be valued as a member of the faculty.
Good luck!
Re: CUNY. If you look at the wiki you'll see the offer was for the more senior position
RE: UBC, they contacted a colleague of mine to invite him, so my guess is they are already inviting candidates
Does anyone know what the status is for the ASU or New Mexico criminology positions? Thanks.
Has anyone heard anything new about Cornell's PAM demography position? According to the wiki, it looks like one person has been invited for an interview. Has the interview already happened? Was an offer made? Have any other candidates been notified? Thanks.
it would be great if the wiki readers among us could keep up with the x's - that way the rest of us have a better idea whether people have been notified about being shortlisted (or maybe even about how many people have been called in for interviews). thanks!
Anyone heard about Valdosta? I haven't heard anything since my phone interview a couple of weeks ago.
RE: CUNY
I heard through the grapevine that Queens still works on their shortlist for the Demography junior position. They didn't call anyone yet.
Re Valdosta:
I had a phone interview with them a couple of weeks ago too, and I haven't heard anything back from them either.
Of my 3 phone interviews, that was the one I felt the least positive about afterward. I'd be interested in hearing if others had the same feeling.
re: Sonoma State University
I was contacted by them for more information with a request to keep a date open for an interview.
9:58 - was that request for the Sonoma State Sociology Search or for their Women's Studies search?
I was contacted 2 or 3 weeks ago about the New Mexico crim position.
YALE:
My friend just got contacted for an interview.
UVA (open) is scheduling interviews too.
The wiki says the Berkeley position in Diversity/Democracy is interviewing. Does anyone have more information?
I've learned a lot about the process from this blog. I appreciate the forum and especially the collegial sharing. Thanks and good luck!
10:13 - thanks for the information, and good luck with the UNM interview.
re: 10:02
Sonoma State contacted me about the sociology search.
Sonoma State Women's Studies has also scheduled interviews.
2:33 Actually, I ended up withdrawing my name because I took another position. Who knows? They're probably still searching.
For the person who posted that University of Tennessee was scheduling interviews: was that for the Environmental Soc or African Soc position? Thanks.
Cornell's PAM department is still interviewing as of this week. I think that they are interviewing three junior candidates in total.
Who got the Rice job?
a postdoctoral fellow already there last year?
Somebody added UIC to the list of schools that have made offers on the Wiki. Is this for the theory position or the organizations position?
Tennessee is interviewing for both the Africana Studes and the Environmental position.
According to the Wiki, Princeton is interviewing for its demography position. Any details?
re: Princeton.
What kind of details would you like? their social security numbers, perhaps?
6:43 AM
WOW! Where did that come from?
6:43: Yes, social security numbers, mailing addresses, shoe sizes...that's exactly what I was curious about. Seriously, were you born a jackass, or should I just attribute it to job market stress?
I just assumed that on a job market blog people would be smart enough to know I was asking about scheduling/interview details without having to spell it out - when did they start scheduling interviews? How many candidates are they bringing in? Have they contacted everyone?
I was contacted by Princeton to schedule an interview earlier this week. I don't know the answer to any of your questions (well, perhaps shoe size). I wish I did.
Thanks, 7:46.
Anyone heard from the Robert Wood Johnson Health Policy postdoc? Any idea when people should expect to hear from them based on previous experience?
Thanks!
Regarding the RWJF Health Policy and Health & Society postdocs, you would get an e-mail around Dec. 15th that you made it to the interview rounds. If you don't get an e-mail, you will receive snail mail by the end of January that your application will not go any further.
If anybody applied to the RWJ Health & Society Program (the OTHER one), you'll hear about the same time, too. They usually email and call.
Oops, sorry to repeat info there. But I do remember getting a call as well.
Knox College has a short list, planning to bring people out in Jan/Feb.
Cal State Sacramento is currently interviewing for the Methods/Stats position.
Univ of West Georgia is currently conducting phone interviews for the Methods/Stats position. They also plan to bring people out in Jan/Feb.
I know one person who has a Princeton interview, but s/he asked me not to reveal his/her shoe size at this time.
(Actually I do know someone - this person has several other interviews also and I'm guessing will get multiple offers. I know someone else who has been contacted to find out if they are still interested, but have not scheduled an interview yet. Or if they have, I haven't heard about it yet, which is likely I guess since this all happened a few days ago.)
In case anyone is dying to know, I wear a size 9.5 women's shoe. Unless I'm wearing heels. Then I wear a 10.
-cpl
Thanks, cpl. I WAS dying to know. It's such a treat to be given something without having to work my butt off for it!
-L 8)
I wonder if CPL and I know the same person who is interviewing at Princeton and has had other interviews at top places. It seems like a really competitive year for the demography positions.
2:55 -
Its possible. I think one thing to keep in mind is that just because six people "know someone" who got an interview, that doesn't mean there are 6 people. We might all know the same person!
I do think there are several very impressive candidates on the market this year, both in demography and other sub-fields. I assume a lot of us know the same well-known candidates within our subfields.
-cpl
I took U of Vermont off the wiki. I confirmed with the search chair today that they have not brought anyone in for any interviews. Makes me distrust the wiki! Why would somebody put something up there that was not true?
I heard that American University made an offer.
6:26, that's why it is called a rumor mill, not a verified information mill... there are countless ways for inaccurate information to wind up posted on this blog, and most bear no ill-intentions.
Does anyone know what is happening with the Michigan State African Diaspora/Migration position? I don't see it listed anywhere on the wiki
good to hear that about Vermont. i'd been thinking for awhile that the wiki was wrong on that score.
i spoke with someone at American University a week or so ago and they were still "in process." as i recall, they have two open positions there.
Can corroborate 11:28 with Sac State interviewing and West Georgia phone interviewing with an intent to let campus candidates know around the first of the year....
p.s. 11:28 you must be my competition!!!!!!!
hello competition! add another to the list, i too did a phone interview with west georgia. i really appreciated the frankness of their conversation. others should be so transparent.
I too interviewed with West Georgia by phone this week. Keep in mind they are hiring for up to four positions, so we may not be in direct competition with each other. Regardless, good luck all!
has anyone else heard about USC? Have they conducted any interviews yet?
Interviews are already scheduled for USC.
Anyone hear anything about Loyola (urban hire)? I know they've interviewed some candidates, but I was wondering if they'd made an offer or if perhaps they would dip back into the pool...? (I know it's grasping for straws, but hey - it's the job market.)
There appears to be some inaccuracy regarding the University of Vermont position. I know someone who interviewed there several weeks ago.
Has anyone heard about UT-Arlington? It's been a month since their review starting date.
Yeah; I put Vermont on the wiki because I heard that a friend-of-a-friend was interviewing there. But, it was second-hand info, so could have been wrong. But, I'm kind of doubtful. Are there two positions? This was for the race position.
Looks like interviews have been scheduled for Pomona over the next few weeks.
any word on the status of searches at holy cross or simmons?
Has anyone heard anything at all from Ohio State?
University of Toronto-Scarborough? Anybody heard anything about the urban position there?
Has anyone heard anything about my first choice school?
Aha ha ha. Oh, gosh that's funny. That's really funny. Do you write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh.
Some people are clearly above and beyond all of this. I don't know why they come here to hang out with us mortals.
UT-Scarborough (Urban): I heard that they didn't get many applications, and are considering calling off the search.
for the person seeking info on the berkeley democracy/diversity position, they are interviewing at this point. other people who made the midlist but not the campus interviews have now been notified.
Thanks, 8:52.
Re: Berkeley. If you look carefully at their website Berkeley has finished with the interviews. They had 5 people over and will decide on Monday who is getting the call. Good luck!!
Re: Rice, my guess is that -as we did last year- you have to wait till September and check at the school's website who got the job.
Does anyone know what is happening with the Eckerd College search? I see that they have scheduled campus interviews. Have they happened? If so, if you feel like sharing, what were your impressions?
re: Eckerd. According to my info - their initial offer was declined and they are deciding whether to go back to their short list and bring in another round of interviews. It is a good job, very student-centered but with better support for research than other schools its size.
Thanks for the information on Eckerd!
I got a AA form letter from Ohio State today that was dated pre-Thanksgiving.
Bowdoin College has made an offer and it has been accepted.
Did something happen to the wiki list of interviews, offers, etc.? When I click on the link, I get a message saying that the page doesn't exist yet. Anyone else experiencing this problem?
I get the same thing - the page is gone.
-cpl
Looks like somebody deleted it.
Its back. Does anybody have a copy of it in case somebody does delete it?
i tried to do a restore from the last update. did it work? -m
It did work, but then someone put an older restore over it... To the person who restored using Google cache, that's not necessary. You can restore based on a previous update, which I have done again over your cached restore. It uses an update from earlier today, which is better than the 12/1 cache. -m
Sorry - I was the one who restored using the google cache. I didn't realize that the old revisions were still there, and could be restored.
The person who deleted the page also deleted several others at the same time (psych (again), anthro, bio). Last week they deleted psychology. So, it might happen again.
sorry to add to the list of what about this position and that position - but, anybody heard anything about CUNY-Queens (demography and/or race) or UC-Merced?
UC-Merced is bringing out its top to candidates this week. They will then decide if they want to bring out any more candidates
Somebody nixed the wiki again. Frown. Will the tech savvy among us please restore the last version?
-Karl
the wiki is completely gone. how shall i obsessively check it? :-(
How about if the tech-savvy also out the IP markers of this person? Preferably in bold print at the top of the wiki? That was remarkably successful last year on the policy jobs wiki. It never disappeared again.
I wondered when this would start happening. Quite frankly, I am suprised it took until now. There are idiots everywhere.
This may have been posted on the wiki that is currently missing: Wisconsin has scheduled an interview for later this week.
Even I, the keeper of confidentiality, would not disapprove of posting the offender's IP address.
-karl
Hear, Hear Karl!
I don't think posting the IP address will help. The person who's deleting the wiki has a dynamic IP address, but it's registered in Reston, VA. Based on the address of the provider, it looks like it's probably a university-owned IP.
Last week when I restored the psych wiki, when it was deleted by this person, I posted the IP and location in bold at the top. Didn't work - the psych wiki got deleted twice more. It's since been moved to another wikihost.
I believe that an IP addressed registered in "Reston, VA" means it's an AOL account. But, it could be any AOL account (i.e. from anywhere in the U.S.). So, not too helpful.
Any news on St Mary's College, Fordham, or Western MI?
If you put an IP address into a whois search like that on domaintools.com you should see if it is registered to university and, if not generally where it is located (not just where the provider is registered). Believe me I know, I track the traffic on my site to see which universities have visited.
8:34am - Do you mean Mount St. Mary's University? If so, then I received an email from them last week stating they had made a shortlist and checking if these people were still interested in the position. I've heard nothing more since then.
I took a nap, and the wiki came back. Correlation or causation?
-Karl
Karl - looks like a strong causal claim to me. I'll see if I can replicate your finding.
-cpl
To whomever posted that U of Texas at Arlington asked for more information, what did they ask for? Thanks!
Any information on St Mary's College of Nortre Dame?
1:37,
I wasn't the one who posted about it before, but U Texas Arlington is asking for a writing sample.
Someone has just removed the wiki again. I've been saving it periodically since it started disappearing and had just saved it so it should be as it was at about 8.30pm tonight. If everyone saves the page every now again I bet we can outfox the moron removing it.
why would someone do that? again? I don't get it.
-karl
I hear you Karl - as if the job hunt experience isn't stressful enough already. Everyone keep on saving the page and the phantom wiki remover will be thwarted!
1:37 and 5:29: yes, ut-arlington asked for a writing sample. best of luck.
Any word on Dickinson?
Michigan State MedSoc (Lymann Briggs) has scheduled interviews. Or, at least one.
Anyone know why the Loyola Chicago religion position was removed from the "Shortlist" category on the wiki?
11:47, I didn't remove Loyola, but I do know that they are presently interviewing for that job.
re: Loyola - religion
I don't know why it was removed, but I do know that they started interviewing for that position last week.
Is a request for permission to contact references a good sign, or is it just routine in some places (like, say... San Jose State)?
Permission to contact references is a good sign, and is routine in some places. :-)
The phantom wiki remover just struck again, but I had saved it at about 4:50pm today so I simply reposted that info. If you added anything between 4:50pm and 5:50pm please be sure to repost that info. Cheers.
Looks like they got a bunch this time: geography, religion, education, anthro, chemistry and classics.
I find this whole thing fascinating - the blogs, wikis, the dissemination of knowledge. I really hope one of us is studying this.
I know on most of the interviews I've gone on, these digital information sharing practices (faulty as though they may sometimes be) come as a complete surprise to the search committee.
This is getting annoying. Does anyone know how to figure out who is the service provider for
71.244.215.187
Can't we email to complain to their isp?
Re: wiki idiot. I've reposted the same 4:50pm (eastern time) version I posted when they deleted earlier today as detailed a few posts above. I shall try continue to save the page every few hours or so, so at worst we lose just a few additions.
It's in CINCINNATI, OHIo and is through VERIZON INTERNET SERVICES INC
The wiki says that University of Maryland College Park scheduled interviews for 4 people (if I am reading that correctly), but that's only for the junior candidates. 5 people were scheduled for the senior candidates. In case anyone was wondering.
Arizona State has scheduled interviews for the second and third week in January.
anyone have any info on those SLAC jobs in upstate NY with later deadlines, namely Hartwick and/or Bard?
Wiki says that UIC made an offer. Does anybody know for what position?
On the wiki it says Pomona College's job talks are posted on their website. I could not find them. Could someone post a link? Thanks.
UIC- I'm pretty sure that they made an offer for theory.
I don't know about the organizations search.
10:10, thanks a lot for the UIC info.
Wells made an offer.
UIC has made offers for both the theory and the organizations positions.
Has anyone heard anything about CUNY Brooklyn (race) or Ithaca College (crime)?
RE: Brooklyn CUNY (race)
They made an offer and it was accepted
Re: Pomona. I was looking for that too. There are some dates listed in the campus events calendar, but no info. Looks like 4 candidates so far.
Does anyone know anything at all about the University of Northern Iowa theory search advertised on asanet? Deadline was 10-1, but I've heard nothing - not even rejection - and no one seems to be discussing it.
Was the search canceled?
Also, anyone hear anything from Brigham Young?
the psych wiki has also been deleted several times in the past week. we're now using a wikidot site (http://psychjobs.wikidot.com/psych-job-search-07-08) and it seems to be working well. as far as i know, no information has been deleted yet...
Re: Pomona, check the campus events under lunch with students and cross check with the job talk dates for more info...
re: Univ of Toronto (Scarborough) & its urban search
There were postings a week or two back about this search possibly being called off. However, it appears to be "on" so far. Today I got an impersonal email saying they now have a long list and that a short list will be drawn up after a Tuesday meeting in Toronto.
Wells College offer has been accepted.
U of Northern Iowa scheduled interviews in November.
It is a little unclear from the WIKI--has UNC-Greensboro scheduled interviews?
Thanks!
Fordham University is listed as having scheduled an interview/s. Is this for the open/methods position (Lincoln Center campus) or the urban/immigration position (Rose Hill campus)?
Thanks for cleaning up the wiki. The UNC-Greensboro posting now makes sense.
Anyone know how many people they are bringing in?
Has anyone heard anything from UW-Stout? They closed almost a month ago
Yale used to be in the "scheduled interviews" list. Not anymore. What happened? Does anyone know?
several jobs talks are underway at yale
A freaky guy came back. I have restored the wiki (yesterday 9:35pm edition).
Wiki is gone again. Its great to see that this idiot has so much free time on his/her hands that they can troll these sites and remove this stuff. Since this is obviously going to continue, I woule like to request that when someone adds an offer or acceptance to the wiki that they also post it in the blog under the appropriate section. That way we can always be getting the most important info regularly without worrying about missing it because of the deletions.
Yale has scheduled four job talks for last week and this week and is scheduled to vote on the appointment at the end of the week.
Apologies if some of this is already known; with the Wiki down I can't be sure. Offers have been made at:
SUNY Buffalo
U Mass
University of Miami
report our diabolical deleter (IP 71.124.2.59) to abuse@verizon.net and/or security@verizon.net
enough complaints and we might generate a critical mass.
The following have short-lists:
Seattle Pacific University
Occidental
South Florida is arranging phone interviews for the non-TT position.
TCU has finished the first round of interviews.
Confirming that Eckerd extended an offer, which was turned down. They are dipping back into their pool of candidates.
any information on the michigan state u global urban studies position?
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hmmm... they didn't ask me for that stuff...
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I also complained and got the same response as 8:06am. Happy to send another email again if someone can provide the right information. Cheers.
I got a rejection email today from the RWJF Health and Society Scholars program. :-( Shouldn't be suprised...if you look at who they selected in previous years (on their website), it appears that they just trade people across their own schools. You don't see very many scholars selected at all from places other than Berkeley, Columbia, Princeton, UCLA, Wisconsin, Michigan, UPenn, or Harvard. If anybody hears anything from the Health Policy Scholars program, it would be great if you post it on here. Thanks.
Lehigh has a short list. I was notified by email that I wasn't on it.
9:40
About Lehigh. When did you receive their e-mail? Was it last week?
Thanks.
Re Lehigh. Were you initally asked for additional info and then notified that you were not on a short list? Thanks, and sorry about that!
Queens is listed on the wiki as having a long-shortlist. Does anyone have more info? Were people on the list contacted? Thanks!
The RWJ Scholars in Health Policy Program will meet this week to finalize their list of interviewees.
Re: Queens. I received an email from the chair asking me if I was still interested in the position and that they had made some sort of a list.
I see from the Wiki that someone interviewed at Ursinus College - does anyone know if an offer was made and if it was accepted? Thanks.
RWJ HSS has selected sociologists recently from UT-Austin, UC-Boulder, Penn State, UCSF, U Illinois Champaign-Urbana, and NYU. Good schools, all, but not in your list.
10:51- look at their picks from last year. Here is the breakdown: Harvard (5), Princeton (1), U Michigan (1), UCLA (1), Johns Hopkins (1), Columbia (1), Brown (1), UNC Chapel Hill (1), U Penn (1), NYU (1- but has PhD from Berkeley), Ohio State (1, but did extensive health research outside of the country). Looks like a lot of Ivy and top ranked schools to me!
10:59; 10:51 here. I hear you. Just pointing out that last year wasn't necessarily representative, because I don't like to see my program publicly maligned.
I got my rejection e-mail for the RWJF Health and Society program today too. As mentioned before in this blog, there are two programs available for sociologists: Health Policy and Health & Society. If you really look at the candidates selected for each program, the Health Policy definitely favors candidates from the elite schools.
11:14,
When you establish the final list, will you contact folks by phone, email, or snail mail? (for those of us who are traveling during the holidays).
Ah, I'm not running the program, I'm in the program. But, I was contacted around this time in December via email and phone. It is extremely well-organized so rest assured they will get in touch with you!
I guess the point is that as scientists, we draw conclusions based upon trends (not exceptions). I see the trend as the being that the RWJF program favors IVY and top-ranked R1s much more so than R2s and lower ranked R1s. Of course there are exceptions, but even the exceptions tend to be more qualified (have done previous health research or worked in the health field) than their IVY and top-ranked piers. Seems to me that you have to prove yourself more if you don't come from the elite. I don't think you will ever see a year when scholars from Harvard and Berkeley are not the most highly represented picks. Thats not mailigning anything- its representing the data...
Well, of course. You enroll in top ranked programs because you are provided certain benefits. In addition to--on average--a stronger graduate training, the top R1s generally have a density of (ASA oriented) social capital that makes it easier to find a (good) job. It's annoying how people equate being in a top program with more rigid forms of social privilege. Acknowledging racial and class differences in early academic success, students in lower ranked programs (myself included) could have gone to top ranked programs had they--for the most part--worked harder as an undergrad.
Anyone know anything about the searches at UC Santa Cruz's Latin American and Latino Studies program? I know this is kind of off topic, but I'm not aware of any similar resource for Latin Am Studies, and I figured if I applied, I'm probably not the only sociologist to do so.
Wiki down....thought I would post here as suggested...
Recently scheduled interviews:
SUNY-Fredonia
St. Norbert
U of West Georgia
Morehead State
North Georgia College and State
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Christopher Newport conducting phone interviews
More recently scheduled interviews:
U of West Georgia
UNC-Wilmington
Positions filled:
University of Tennessee (environment)
In response to 12:56 - here we go again. No, there are those out there who went to smaller state colleges due to family economics and who worked quite hard (often holding down jobs while their friends partied). Even with that as the case, and with very good GPAs (in some cases 4.0s or very close), along with good GRE scores (1200 range), those from smaller or non-name public state schools are usually not considered by the top 20-top 30 programs for an M.A. or Ph.D. (let alone the truly elite ones). Nice try on sneaking the "didn't work hard enough" hypothesis by everyone though.
12:56 here. I concede that some individuals enroll in less prestigious programs because of nonacademic reasons, but that doesn't take away from the point that top tier schools--which are composed of very high achieving students--provide unique benefits than non-top schools can't. I also take issue with your statement that students from smaller or less known state schools are "not considered" by top 20 programs. This is simply ridiculous. One could easily make the argument that students from "big-name" schools actually have a harder time being considered in top programs simply due to the fact that it is more challenging to work closely and thus get good letters from faculty. Regardless of which students are more "disadvantaged," it is not a school-ranking effect. There is no vast R1 conspiracy against students from regional state university.
12:56, 2:18...Its not about conspiracy. Its about a very clear caste effect. Once you are in a low-ranked college (whether it be due to economics or other reasons), its hard to ever get out. If this is a race, people who went to undergrad at a prestigious U are already halfway to the finish line when it comes to grad school. Same analogy holds at the grad school/job market level. The disadvantage of not having a prestigious letter writer at your R1 does not trump the disadvantage of not being able to get in to an R1 to begin with. I would be willing to match GPAs, GRE scores, comp exams, statistical skills, research experience, and dissertation with any one of the R1 PhD grads. I am betting I would hold my own against most of them (and that was while holding down full and part time jobs through both undergrad and grad school). But RWJF doesn't want me because I am not prestigious enough. Lets get real, people born into working class families, who went to small town public schools, who didn't have the guidance or mentorship from early on didn't know where to begin when it came to college. Somehow we made it through pretty successfully just to find out that we were screwed from the beginning.
I turned down an offer to do my PhD in a top 5 program. Went to a smaller state school instead, to work with 2 leading experts in my chosen specialty.
Anyone who says we're less intelligent can go up against me any day. Many people make decisions for schools (and jobs!) based on more than just prestige.
Ok. I generally agree with what you're saying. I suppose we differ in how we frame this so-called caste system (which I don't think is nearly as rigid as popularly thought). If we're talking about class differentials here then call it that-although I'm not sure I would necessarily buy that either.
RWJF is an extremely competitive competition, and you were probably not selected not because you didn't go to Harvard (sorry for the triple negative), but because a handful of other applicants had qualifications that fit better with the program objectives. Let's get real-what is the utility in RWJF selecting a less-capable Harvard PhD over someone more qualified from a lesser ranked program?
Regarding Lehigh, they have a long-short list and contacted me last week for additional stuff. From what I know, they will be meeting this week to hammer down to the final 4 who will then be interviewed in mid Jan.
Utility? How did I end up on the economist job board?
It's so depressing how non-sociological sociologists can be. Alas.
Anyway, I reposted the soc wiki after it was deleted yet again. If you've posted anything today on the wiki you might want to double check.
Thoughts on moving this, ala the psych folks?
How about that we keep this section of the blog devoted solely to the discussion of the status of searches and relevant interview inquiries? We are all stressed out, but there is nothing new in these posts that complain about how picky top schools are.
Or, it's so depressing how non-scientific social scientists can be...
This is 2:48. What's really depressing is that as highly educated as we all are, it still isn't possible to have a scholarly debate on this forum without people getting in a huff.
Is this a job market thing, an anonymous forum thing, or a sociology thing? Your guess is as good as mine.
blah blah blah.
Instructions on how to restore a page on the wiki.
Click the page. Then click 'History'. Click on a revision before the most recent. When that page pops up, click 'Edit Page'. You should in the text box, see all the old info (even if it appears as something different on the previous page). Save page as normal. Voila! No need to cut and paste.
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